The 2020 Python features modern stainless steel alloys and a re . You covered the bases. The consistent and excellent result of all of the guns put a gun-nerd grin on my face. I have a Galco Summer Comfort and a DeSantis Thumb Break Scabbard for my Ruger GP100 4.2. Yeah that was a huge fuk up and hopefully massive changes have been made since then. Hey, Im ordering a couple, but I would not advise you to spend that particular check until it is not only received and deposited, but confirmed to have *cleared*! Theres no doubt the new trigger is better in every way. Be advised, I did see a couple of people slowly let the trigger out, and then observe that the cylinder would freeze when they tried to bring it back in. Ive shot revolvers, including Colts, for years. Colt Python 3-Inch Specifications: Caliber: 357 Mag Capacity: 6 round Barrel: 3-inch Overall Length: 8.5-inches Overall Height: 5.5-inches Overall Width: 1.55-inches Barrel Technical: 1:14 LH, 6 Groove Frame: Stainless Steel Finish: Semi-bright Grip: Walnut Sights: Rear, adjustable (windage and elevation); Front, red ramped Those cut-out sections on the top of the rib were originally called vents by Colt. This is a better, more accurate, and better written review than what I have seen at Guns and Ammo or other big gun books. I really enjoyed this review. When I got the gun back from the factory the gouges and tool marks were down to scratches and it fired consistently, not accurately. I still have photos from the first gun and all the correspondence from throughout the ordeal. June 30, 2020 By Keith Wood. Too many recycled stories and a lack of depth. The Python has never been an inexpensive weapon. Its frankly shocking that they release a revolver with very commonly seen reliability issues and people are trying to handwave it away because theyre so thirsty for a new Python. It meant a little more than most of the guns I review. It never failed. In CA we have to have a 4 inch tube to legally carry while hunting. Barrel Length: 4.25 in. With .38 SPL target loads, recoil in either model new Python is very minimal and suitable for the most recoil adverse shooters. When I reviewed the new Colt King Cobra, I noted some concern over the cylinder end-shake, which measured at .003. no more light primer strikes. I had to have one, and about a month ago, I scratched that itch. That said nice to see Colt trying to act like theyre somebody and produce some nice iron. And man, they do look cool. A stainless GP100 is one of the guns that I just cant seem to keep. But it is more utilitarian. Also in keeping with tradition, at twenty-five yards the 2020 Python is unerringly lethal. Colt told me that they assumed the side plates had not been properly tightened from the factory. Very thorough, and I suspect, took some time. Of course, we are all looking forward to the Royal Blue like the one above. Is it better than spending hours on the phone? Trigger is smooth as glass. My dad, like many of his generation, would be right to depend on this new Python as much or more than he ever did the older models. While I appreciated the build of a Python, I was never a fan. She remembers that 50+ years later, the second one is for her. Once the gun fires, theres no reason to carefully bring the trigger forward. We all hoped. However, Colt took the. Took about 10seconds with a stone to fix. I shot a few Pythons back in the day, but couldnt afford one myself. For anyone whos ordered a Single Action Army, or simply had a high polish put on by the Colt Custom Shop, theyve seen what Colt is currently capable of. You mentioned the difference in the actions. Dont care to hear about 10mm. Those are some mighty fine looking revolvers. posted on February 24, 2020. These were a very nice .22 target pistol in their day. For any mechanical issue, they should have it returned to you within 30 days. Measured over 10 pulls of two different guns, theres all of 1.3 oz of difference. When I see my trusty Glock 19 sitting in its place while not on me I see a semi-auto pistol. I own a 74 Colt Python and it is amazing. I not seen anyone address whether the new model has a tapered bore. It just feels like the trigger wants to be pulled, like the gun wants to be shot. Brand new 2020 Python 4.25 inch. When I started this review, I hoped to have both the 6 and 4.25 guns on hand. Best review Ive seen here in a LONG time. Its so good that they had function problems with the shootable examples at Shot Show Media Day,cylinders failed to advance . They lock right in the hand, and help make shooting the Python a joy. Altamont makes some grips for the GP100 that look great, and really class the gun up. Oh, 686? I would guess that the problems mentioned above are people not owning up to improper reassembly. This detailed review implies the contrary, according to the author its all good. Height is 7.25 inches. Also have a S&W Model 629 with a polished trigger. Prior to the development of modern hollow-points even the good old .45 AARP had issues when compared against the monster cartridges you can load into a revolver frame. Ive owned more than a few Pythons over the years. The bullet has long left the barrel by the time your finger is moving out. Id trust this gun with my life any day of the week, even if that day was decades away. I think its a weak mainspring thats mostly to blame (probably did that to simulate the original refined action) and/or a problem with the transfer bar/hammer. S&W 686 + with that awesome SA trigger by smith and wesson6 3 (7 shot .357) and still only 800 dollarsguess Im just a broke ass Florida Kracker. Style and Appearance * * * * * Thank you. Only one 4. They would continue to make the 6 Python, in some number, all the way to 2006. Fend of a 10 pack of starving Wuhan flu zombies ? Then I taught her to shoot a 4 Python with hot .357 loads around 1968, and she could not miss. Until then Ill run my 686+ and Ruger Match Champion. And no, the Cobra and Kimg Cobra are not that gun. Just something about a huge revolver.. But aint nothin wrong with some .45 ACP in a good 1911 or a Glock-style pistol (e. g. Ruger SR45). Same again for Winchesters and Remingtons of old. Im an admitted Glock fanboi with a bias for 1911s, but theres something about a handsome wheelgun that just brings out the nostalgia. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. To be clear, they said I needed to realize this guns(New Pythons) are 100% assembly lined manufactured, they are not tested, have no critical inspections, I would get they next one off the line with no testing or inspection and they would not replace or warranty the gun from there on out. I carry my four inch gun from time to time. The new Python has a 5-pound trigger pull, and it isn't clean and crisp. And I was worried Hartford would screw it all up releasing a sub-standard Python. These days, high performance JHPs mean that while semi-autos still cant keep up with enormous hunting cartridge revolvers, they are more than good enough to compete against .38 SPL self-defense revolvers. The Serial Number is under 4000, and it was delivered to my dealer from the distributor one week ago. The blueing of stainless often requires you hit a narrow temperature range, sometimes you need to run the salt bath temp up and down through the range to get the blueing to start, then you need to sometimes agitate the salts a bit to keep them blueing the stainless, etc, etc. Much like the first edition of the Python, this revolver has a captivating appearance. The big change is that Colt ditched the hammer block. Im just pulling for Colt to make some improvements. This process is described the same way, and even on the same page (19) in the manual, with the King Cobra and the Python. Once the trigger is released, the trigger will rotate back to its at rest position, pulling the transfer bar down from behind the firing pin, leaving a gap between the firing pin and hammer. As of this writing, Colt says they have produced about 5,000 Pythons and they are split about evenly in barrel lengths. In a fascinating little bit of arithmetic, he would pay the same amount for the new Python in 2020. As of this writing, Colt says they have produced about 5,000 Pythons and they are split about evenly in barrel lengths. Adjusting for inflation, the prices on the old production guns and these cost about the same. But then I havent ordered leather for it, yet. The new Python opts for a similar but different style rounded wire V shaped mainspring. , Ive been careful with my money all my life and this is what it gets me. Colt certainly sent out guns that were defective. The enthusiasm was so high that eager buyers joined a Colt Python waiting list or even paid a premium to get the desirable revolver early. It is friggin gorgeous. The Pythons barrel is marked simply with the snake styled C in Colt and the location of manufacture on one side and Python .357 Magnum on the other. The problems were seen in guns either straight out of the box or having only been handled by Colt people (the SHOT show debacle). Watch some of the revolver masters, like Patrick Sweeney, and youll see their trigger finger actually slap the inside of the trigger guard. All groups were shot in single-action, seated off a bag at 25 yards, and the listed groups are averages of five rounds shot over four shot strings. Have at it, which reminds me of the adage That is why they make Chevys and Fords,everyone can have what they want. I am looking forward to seeing more posts by you as soon as possible! Colt has revived an iconic and superb firearm with the 2020 Python. With a modern handgun, using modern steels, a .45 Colt can be loaded to be the equivalent of a .44 RemMag and then some. Happy out of the army to me! I now have a varied collection of plastic autos, steel autos, and revolvers and Im thinking I really need to get a Colt. I take a different view than many people. (Photo: Colt) The hand-filling 8-inch Colt Anaconda for 2021 has an. YouTube has indeed changed our world . The Python had a $125 MSRP (the same as the Single Action Army). When I look at those Pythons or say something like a Colt Walker I see a freakin canon. During all of that shooting 1,700+ rounds I found no issues at all with any of the guns. Thank you very much. Thanks a lot for sharing this excellent info! Colt took less than perfect functioning examples to their big roll out at shot show, what manufacturing company doesnt check out examples before a event like Shot for their premiere. This is a stout and very capable load, with muzzle velocities in the 6 gun over 1,200fps. When push comes to shove though, Ive never been a big fan of the .357 either. The worst shooting group was also an Armscor 158 gr FMJ round. Python trigger is smoother by a very very large margin. Months before Colt was able to get me guns to review, the guns from my buddy came in. 9mm Pistol. These grips fill a single hand well, finishing just below the pinky of my size-large hand. I asked Colt why stainless, and not blue? Midway Has the Federal 5.56x45mm M855 Bulk Ammunition You Need Now, National Level Trainers Offering Free Beginning Gun Handling Videos, New From ShaloTek: P320 Compensated Slide, The 3 Most Important Handgun Shooting Stances to Learn, Gun Review: Taurus GX4XL T.O.R.O. These are some of the most highly-prized guns for collectors. I like and own both revolvers and semi-autos. Same here. With the possible exception of the Korth guns, the new Python has the finest production trigger on the market right now. None of the threads on any of my guns included a thread locker material on them. The only way to get a double action gun back in the game is to get that trigger forward as fast as possible. Well-written and thorough. In front of the sight, just above the muzzle, there is a very small screw. Carried S&W N and K frames for many years as a Peace Officer, but always kinda wanted a Python. Then, in a surprise move, Colt introduced a re-engineered Python last year, in stainless steel only, with either a 4 1/4-inch or 6-inch barrel. I wanted this to be my best gun, I wanted to love this gun. Me, Id be far more interested in the 8 barreled version like the one introduced in 1980. I dearly hope we see a blued Python, and Id fight a big man or a small old lady to be first in line for one, but I dont think we will see them in significant numbers anytime soon. Well, the truth is, some stainless steels can be blued. What you are describing sounds like the exact same defect that I had on a Rossi break-action rifle. I shoot it regularly and its still like a dream. Colt said that of all of the guns they had produced, only about 25 had been returned for any mechanical reliability issue. If it requires refinishing, it may take longer. try desantis holster hybrid. It was also chambered in .357 Magnum. Maybe Colt will offer the blue from their custom shop? Colt Python Revolver. Both say they fit the Python and SW 686 as well. Thanks for the review. Feeding issues plague Semi-Autos due to magazine issues, ammo differences, and wear items. Finish: Semi-Bright It deserves all the hype created by its release. The cylinder on the 4.25 gun was blasted and caked with powder burns after shooting it, so much so that the cylinder squeaked when I moved it. Customization on a revolver is a package deal. If you mentioned it I missed it, but there is a difference in the frame. But Im happy with it. I couldnt hit the bank fast enough. Now what they need to do is develop a 8-shot 357/38 revolver for competition shooters, like Ruger did with the Super GP100. For those that learn the action this is a great revolver, perhaps the greatest Colt ever. Dear colt, 2.5 round butt, PVD black and you can have my $1499 , https://www.gunbroker.com/item/865604298 This Gun. The original model Colt Pythons didnt offer a stainless finish until 1983. I do wish they would bring back a lithe 38 Special like the Police Positive. Nano-nit Its caulk, not calk, nless thats a rural Texas thing Im unaware of. Colt said that they had started using thread locker as well as tested to see if the side plates would come loose during firing. How is it that Mauser made millions of bolt action rifles that went to hell and back for use and conditions, and they never needed thread locker? And high-qualityrosinis just that. Rosin can be made from many types of starting materials, including flower, kief and bubble hash either dried or fresh frozen. It also exhibits the same lack of stack as the King Cobra. Yes a example that didnt have the problem that many other examples did, just google New Colt Pythons problems,5 to 6 pages should get the point across. Its not exactly what the Democrats wanted done with the money, which makes it all the more delightful. Not because I dont like it, because everybody else around me does. Which is it? If that kind of thing continued on the Python, I wouldnt be disappointed, Id be angry. Dont mind the negative Nancys who are complaining. The FIRST RULE of buying anything new (especially guns) is to wait the only thing is cant find a new anywhere and double the price is crazy i think the 1499.00 price is right but try to find one its impossible and if they only made 2500 6 pythons thats a frigin joke its gonna be the same thing again you want a python its gonna be 3000 period which is a real bummer were not like the lucky ones who get to find these guns and test them colt needs to ramp up the production on these pythons which wont happen real bummer us average joe will never see one of these pythons jock. Pretty shameful display so far, especially knowing I could buy a used Ruger with the same problem, dial a number, have it sent in, fixed, and back in my mitts in under two weeks. Like the classic Pythons of yesteryear, the 2020 models feature the full-underlug barrel and the ventilated top rib, providing that classic look that wheelgun fans love. This releases the front sight, which can then be replaced with a different front sight. Mine is a stainless 6 model with full size grips. I even own a few Tubberware pistols. Really. (That's $1,134 in today's . Although the vented rib and full underlug on the I-Frame Colt may have given it a signature look, its that grips shape that gave the Python its signature feel. New wood grips that you modified to fit you . The reply was that stainless steel guns are what people will shoot. Nice gun-nice review. I have ordered 2 of the 4.25, hopefully consecutive numbers, though when I might see them in this environment, who can tell. Hunt deer humanely at distances of 100 yards Id go with Ruger .44 SBH with a scope ( I have one). It may have just passed up my pinned barrel 29 Ive been looking for as #1 to get. Once I determined that I had removed enough material from the hammer, I polished it and re-blued it. Colt Pythons manufactured between 1955 and 1969 also feature numeral-based serial numbers. Enjoyed reading your review (youre not a Colt fan at all, are you?). Not much risk there. Finally, our impatience was rewarded when, earlier this year, Colt released the 6 and 4.25 Pythons. The documented problem was that the cylinder would intermittently fail to advance. Many folks think that Colt has lost the level of expertise and attention to detail necessary to produce that finish. And the focus is always on the problem but never the resolution, or the manufacturers response. You want to piss off and lose customers? Re the group: this is why reviewers include the calipers in the picture, so people can see theres no shenanigans. . Of course, the cost of a blued Python would be considerably more. When I ETSed in 83 I bought a 6 stainless Python. Man, it was atrocious. . Capacity: 6 rds. There is, IMHO, an intimidation factor involved with large frame revolvers. Its the best! Not saying theyll be inexpensive; the Python is definitely a premium wheelgun. The Pythons adjustable rear sight is very similar to the original. Hey, Nanking Nancy, lookee what I got! That ended up as a bonus to you, the reader. Im tempted by this new one, but its still pretty pricy. I like it well enough that once all this beer virus crap settles down Im going to start looking for a lever gun in .357. Sure beats some of the plastic guns and ARs which are that price or more. Colt notes that the rear of the top strap has more steel there than the originals, leading to a stronger revolver. Dont bite the hand that feeds you. by. No doubt about that. I tested both a 6 and a 4.25 trigger. Mfg Part Number. Colt got back in the double action revolver game with the Cobra. Note the last 4 words of the review. The .357 Magnum can be a painful handful in a lightweight, snub-nosed revolver. That would explain the extreme prices they are going for in the resale market. We have 100s of Collector Grade firearms (not on auction) in our inventory and available for . Then they released the King Cobra and we could see the writing on the wall. Its also my wifes favorite gun of the entire collection. The recoil itself isnt difficult to manage in either length, the 6 gun just gets back on target faster, with very minimal muzzle rise. I am Happy with both holsters; one IWB, one OWB. Groups are measured center to center with a metal ruler. These guns had loose side plates that may have caused the malfunction. Grouping straight out of the box is excellent as expected. I have fond memories of my youth shooting several Pythons. I kept my Dan Wesson with no regrets. The gun pictured here was made in 1962. Beauty contest? What brand dial indicator is that youre using? I dont care for the difficulty I read about getting in touch with them. When it comes to precision, the new Python easily lives up to the reputation of the original models. I find it on muzzle brakes. Oh and a competitor to the S&W M&P R8, including optic and WML rails (Ruger needs to get on that one too). Without the trigger holding the transfer bar up behind the firing pin there is no way for the hammer to contact the transfer bar or firing pin. Description. Try to keep up with the conversation. 5 shot .45 Colt capable of safely launching the Ruger Only loads. There are several guns Id love to see Colt bring back: Colt Woodsman target .22 semi-auto. Colt has been providing quality firearms for the US Military since Samuel Colt's first US Patent in 1836. On both the 6 and 4.25 guns, the Armscor 158 gr FMJ in .38 SPL shot the best. You asked about holsters; both Galco and DeSantis have holsters for the Python. Wow. Mark A. Keefe, IV, Editorial Director. Once the buying fever dies down Id like to buy one of those 6 inch models. Now it looks fantastic and it functions properly. ( 31 customer reviews) Sold: 18. Both guns were (and are) lasers and were an absolute joy to shoot. I was thrilled to find a new Python at Cabelas. Its going back to Colt. Victim blame all you want (like they didnt release the trigger all the way in this review), this release is a mess and the problems were (are?) Can you recommend anyone to do this work on say, a new 4.25 Colt Python? I pulled the side plates from each of the new guns I had access to. The only Colt I ever owned was a SAA. There is a 3% charge for credit card transactions. Accuracy. From the perspective of a former swimming pool operator, there are just so many things wrong with this part of the conversation. Colt Python 6 I'm very disheartened about this. Colt Python 2020 Review: The Greatest Revolver of All Time? . real. This is especially true of the 6 model. Stainless steel is not as pretty as blued. Hoping they fix the thing. I scrimped and saved and by fall of 81 had enough to pay full price plus sales tax. If anything, theyve reminded us of what the company once produced, and what it still is capable of. Slightly gritty. If it makes your heart flutter and your blood pressure spike with joy, by all means, go for it. I followed your advice and did a search on Google. Maybe I handled a bad new Python, but there should be no such thing. I have to say I was surprised to see Colt bringing the Python back. use the Glock. Ill read a few more reviews and decide if that government check should go to Colt. Nice review. Grips: Walnut Target Stocks Spent two hours on hold with Colt before I got a living person on the line and they promised an RMA that never came.
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