Im looking at Cub Cadet PRO Z 148 S EFI and the Cub cadet Z-Force SX 48. Just so you know this is the last year for the M-ZT line. Several years ago you helped me purchase my Craftsman Pro Series 42 riding mower. Paul, our 1 acre lot in PA has some trees, and is a bit bumpy in spots. In fact you can buy the new 2020 50 (127 cm) TimeCutter Zero Turn Mower (75750) for less money. Father in law says he believes i could take a 60 inch back there with no problem and just lift the deck to avoid any small stumps etc that was left over from the guy clearing. I have about 1 acre of mowable grass. Looking for advice on a ZTR for 1.5 acres, mainly flat with about 20 deg inclines around a drainage ditch. Gravely ZT X 52 with Kawasaki engine $3499 The fully articulated deck hugs all the dips and bumps in your yards and does a great job of striping. After the first cut, he had words for it. Ive noticed that they offer two different engines though. The 48 48SC-BS24 is on sale for $4207 at sleequipment.com which seems to make it the best value of the 4 Bradley Stand on options. Toro with its smart speed control allows you to pull much heavier loads than all the other ZTRs. Since my post Ive started looking at the scab patriot 61 inch. I miss snow but if the investment makes my winters safer I am okay. Clean your deck with the deck wash every time you mow when the grass is still wet under the deck. Appreciate it. Since you will buy this from a dealer ask a mechanic to show you how to level the deck. Please help! Thank you so much Paul. I also believe all Exmarks now have foam filled front tires so punctures are not an issue anymore. Yes, I know pretty anal. Hi Morty, They dont list the tip speed but since they are advertising 7 MPH it will be at the max for residential mowers. Behold! He did a great job and cut down a lot of the smaller trees etc. Its Ariens Decision not Home Depots. For the other two brands, you really should limit your towing to 200-250 lbs. For either of the above options, is a ROPS available? SO, you really did make my day today. So, Jonsered, Poulan Pro, and Husqvarna tractors are basically all the same they are just painted different colors. Hi Adam, I recommend the Toro Titan with MyRide. If you do not mind spending a considerable amount of money, the Bad Boy BZS60KT745 ZT Elite Zero Turn Lawn Mower is a near-perfect option in the market. It has accessories for power deck lift and a mower jack for easy blade changes. Im also very impressed with the Worx LANDROID L 20V (4.0AH) CORDLESS ROBOTIC LAWN MOWER W/ GPS. We have about an acre of lawn with a lot of pine trees, The Magnum does not have as strong of a frame as the Toro and Cub Cadets. Bush Hog has always catered to the farm and ranch crowd so you will only find them at a farm implement dealer. So I am looking at potentially free delivery of the machine to my home. I think I like the idea of a lighter, more nimble mower, but perhaps the heavier one is better for most general applications. I can get on and off without the rail, but it involves using the deck as a step, which the dealer says is fine. The Bobcat ZT2000 tends to be a little heavier duty than other brands. I appreciate your suggestion, and I am going to check out the Gravely ZTRs this week, at my local dealer. That his asking price. I have lower back issues. What do you think about the Craftsman 42 inch Steering wheel zero turn. Hi G Sandler, That model, M-ZT61 Kawasaki (967 17 70-08) is a good mower with a good reputation. 1. Sure would appreciate any input (Brain muscle tired).. Hi Mark, Its very easy to get analysis paralysis when there are about 40 mowers that really could do the job well for you. 50. 24.5 HP TimeCutter IronForged Deck Zero Turn Riding Mower with MyRIDE Available at The Home Depot Also available at Tractor Supply, ACME Tools and your local Toro Dealer. I also like one of my Ariens/Gravely dealers. Speed is nice, but the landscape will keep me moving slow to stay in the seat. Yes, there are many good ZTRs when you get up in the 6K price range. Any advice would be appreciated. So, well see if they last. It is the most expensive of the mower I discuss. https://www.homedepot.com/p/Toro-42-in-22-5-HP-TimeCutter-Commercial-V-Twin-Gas-Dual-Hydrostatic-Zero-Turn-Riding-Mower-with-Smart-Speed-75742/310836498 I like the flip up footplate, the Kohler, and the rear engine guard on the Cub Cadet a lot. $9.99. Both have heavy-duty fabricated decks and Kohler/Kawasaki engines. With the SmartSpeed you can easily pull 350 lbs without hurting the tranny. Features : It will last for you if you do two things. Appears to be a heavy duty estate class machine, has 2800 hydros, Kohler 7000 engine, and even larger tires. Toro TimeCutter MX6050 60 in. Any insight on the Toro V-twin vs the Kohler V-twin 7000 series? Other than that I dont have a preference. Hi Jerry this suspension goes between your existing seat and the mounting plate. Better suspension. The wire comes out the middle of the underside of the seat. I managed to ride it up and down the hillside a couple of times before it died on me. Q: What are your thoughts about Kohler vs Kawasaki quality? The deck is a lot stronger than the stamped deck and will handle banging against tree roots, etc. Since then I have went to a local dealer that sells Toro and Cub Cadet. Doesnt the Toro have limits on towing to 85 lbs? Unless you have a dependable, local dealer, Id stay away from it. You didnt say how much you are mowing but for example, 10 acres 25 times a year is only 60-75 hours a year. More recently, he has been showing up with a Scag zero turn, with a slightly larger deck. If hill is wet I can walk behind to have more control GREAT website. Two of the best in-class lawn mowers, from the two biggest powerhouses, go head-to-head in this review and comparison video by Main Street Mower. Love your site. Keith, If you feel comfortable doing this: Please wear safety glasses, a face shield or a motorcycle helmet and shield. I mow a little over 1/2 acre that is flat but not smooth or soft ground. Because of that brand recognition today the dealer can charge more (and make more profit.) My suggestion is to see what dealers are in your area. Youll like the Toro and at $1000 less it a great buy. You get a lot more mower with the Ariens IKON. Street price: Hi I was wondering what you thought about the new Riding ego zero turn 360 mower battery one Im looking at getting that maybe at the end of the year or next year Right now its a low too expensive for my taste. The 52 Vanguard is $4800 at SLE, but it only gives you 4 more deck.. Its pretty common to go through a belt a year with the with MTD 42 and 46-inch decks made before 2015. Paul, great article. Be aware ZTRs even the ones in this price range are lawn mowers. Ill list them in my opinion the best choices. Have someone engage the deck and watch the belt, idler bracket, spring, and each pulley. Many smaller commercial owners are using the Patriot and it holds up to 10 acres a day every day use. This will provide you greater durability over time. If you have a local dealer to service it I have no problems recommending a Bush Hog. Hello Paul. For fall cleanup, Ill either bag or mulch and sweep. (About $2999) If you husband is over 200 lbs I recommend the IKON. John Deere Z345R (here is the link) I dont know if you are familiar with the brand but its been around for over 35 years and is primarily sold to rural property owners just like yours. For about $500 more you can get the MX4200. You mentioned that there are more than 500 models of mowers out there, so it would be impossible to review them all, but I would like to see what you have to say about the Ultima ZT2 50 compared to the two Jonsered riding lawn mowers sold by Costco https://www.costco.com/CatalogSearch?dept=All&keyword=Jonsered. Have you any recommendations on those? I have 2 acres I mow Is this too much acreage for a mulch kit?i feel like Im shortening the life of the mower by stressing it. The price difference is mainly due to deck size and engine. Need some advice. Two, If you are pulling a cart always put the smart speed in tow. Toro TimeCutter MX5075 with MyRIDE Suspension System 50 in. The biggest feature is Smart Speed. Its a three-speed lever that so you can slow the mower down when pulling heavy loads. The hillside is mostly tall fescue with some clover and ground ivy. I guess I am just asking if you have any knowledge of this mower that you can share. The Cub Cadet has slightly larger tires so it will ride a little better and have a little more traction than the Deere. Let me tell you why! Im moving into a just less than 3 acre lot/home. One of my favorites is the Country Clipper XLT. The 50 inch Model 75750 will go through your gates with the side discharge up. I havent been able to see much on the cut quality of the apex and if its worth the extra $1000. You may not like the Walker for your tasks. Please rank or help me eliminate machines that would be overkill/over buy. I had a Toro time cutter Z5035 model 74376 that lasted 10 years. Youve done an excellent job of researching and then going through all the features that you like and dislike. The MyRide system is a big advantage if your lawn is bumpy. ), good speed, would like towing capability (limited I suppose), and riding comfort (albeit, reliability is more important to me). The ZT 3400 is the industry standard commercial tranny and youll find it on most commercial ZTRs in the $8000-$14,000 price range. It one of the best riding ZTRs on the market. I like the ZT XL 52. By the way it was a trade-in at a local dealer where it was originally purchased and serviced. They are both great engines. My five is in engine, transmutation and durability with Max cut height in mind. Easy-to-operate controls. The Toro is the highest-rated. 1. You also have the Ariens XL 60 and the Hustler SD 60 at around the ZT2 price. Hydro-Gear ZT 3100 transmission. 6. I have heard the EZT can be very reliable if the machine weight is not excessive and theyre not cutting 5 acres a week. I am in search of zero turn to run the fence line, pond and camp area on 22 acres. With a little practice, either one of these mowers will mow your lawn a lot quicker than your 46-inch lawn tractor. It costs more than the Raptor because it has a few extra features like arm rests. If you have ever pulled a boat or camper the specs always include total gross weight and the tongue weight. Home Depot sometimes runs a 10% off special if the HD Credit card is used. Here is my review: Cub Cadet hauler Ill put a picture below. My second choice is either the Toro or Cub Cadet 50 inch. Id also like the ability to pull a dethatcher. The fuel tank is located under the seat and the wide-tread rear tires, ensuring a low center-of-gravity for outstanding stability . But, you would notice that because one blade would cut higher than the other. Is it okay to buy from BB stores if you take good care of the machine? I have just under an acre to mow with one 18 degree slope that drops off to nearly flat in about a 12 foot run in my backyard. Thanks Paul! Is the 3-blades on the Ariens an advantage for mulching? Hi Larry, There is nothing wrong with the Toro or ExMark except the sales didnt meet Toros expectations. Hi Thomas, The Big Dog Alpha is a Hustler Raptor painted red. Hi Steve, Please ask the Home Depot store manager. I often allow the grass to reach 10. The APEX is one of those mowers that it a solid step up from the MZ61. Paul, I mow about 1 1/2 acre of old bumpy lawn every week and another 1 1/2 acre of former pasture every other week. I currently cut with a CC 54 lawn tractor. I think thats unfair. Scrape the underside of the deck clean with a plastic scraper or stiff milker brush when you sharpen the blades. I like the build quality of this mower, the cut quality, and I can easily recommend it for 2-3 acres. I assume the zero turn would have a lower center of gravity, but less weight on the front wheels. Hi Jon, You wont over-stress your mower unless the grass is building up to the point where its stopping the deck. The Titan Max checked all of these boxes, reducing my mowing time by 30 minutes with an excellent cut and awesome warranty. Only thing I have to go around is the back patio. Mowing about 1.2 acres. Now, we are in a new home and are beginning to look for a mower to better meet our needs. Thank you Paul. What is your experience with robotic mowers? 1st time for ZTM. I began to lean towards a local Toro dealer and the MX 5075 but hes telling me carb compliance in California is preventing that model. The other hidden gem is County Clipper. Hustler Raptor XD (cheapest with serv. My Deere 212 lasted me 25 years and I would like to get the same from this machine. On 2.5 acres you may only need to replace the blades every 3-4 years. Thanks Paul! People like their Scag commercial mowers and owners really like how well this one bags but to me its just another middle-of-the-road mower. Hi Trent, Id buy a Bradley in a heartbeat if I needed another mower. The Toro has the smart speed and a 3-point deck. Today the Kawasaki FR is the oldest engine on the market. The Ariens company also makes the Gravely ZT XL. In addition, ANY ZTR under 48 inches will have traction issues like sliding even on dry ground. Also I wonder if they all have 2200 axles, I thought I read that the toro had 2800s. Skip to the end of the images gallery. Im trying to find the balance between good quality and yet not go too overboard. Keep the ZTR off slopes more than 15 degree and change the air filter every 50 hours or less and it will give you a long life. Yes, the biggest difference is the fabricated deck. We have been wearing out two standard 21 mowers, and we need to buy a riding lawn mower. The smaller deck may let you trim more areas of your woods also. This in comparison with the ZT1s EZT-2200. Thoughts on a JD or Cuba Cadet? Will the toro be underpowered? Ariens Apex (overkill) There is one close to your price range and I do highly recommend it. Why? The dealer I prefer carries both Toro and Ariens, so that is not a factor. Price/performance/and working your hills this is the best choice. By the way, Home Depot is not going to carry Ariens mowers. You get a better experience when you buy from a dealer. Ariens IKON XD with Kaw engine $3299. This is not game-changing, but it's much quicker than the ZT mowers purchased at the store. 10-year limited deck warranty. The only other thing I can think of is the deck shell is warped. The Ariens IKON XL 42 comes to mind. Thank you very much for your expertise and timely observations . I suggest taking a look at the Exmark Radius E and Radius S before you look at the Scag. Out of the apex and mz61 which one would have the overall better quality and longevity and have the best cut quality. Would I be perfectly happy with the Toro for my very average small lawn? My problem is that most dealers are out of stock right now, so I need to make a choice without actually testing one myself. My second choice is the Toro Timecutter HD 48 inch at the Home Depot. What Im looking for: reliability, ease of maintenance, easy to handle, budget around $3k and comfort (I can see him spending A LOT of time on it). That said, they are tough enough to keep your woods clear but if you let the growth get over 11 inches or so you may have to mow the area 2 or more times before you get a clean cut. The Edge also has a pivoting front axle. I would like to get something better preferably a zero turn to handle the flower beds but I am open to any suggestion you might have. The only maintenance is sharpening or changing the blade once a year. OxCart Utility Cart Review The Best Dump Yard Cart? The Maverick features a ton of improvements creating the best mower a home owner can hope for. Thanks for your reply. Thanks a mil. The Z930M is the most popular John Deere mower for commercial operators. Hey Paul, Just remember, if you mow that way your mower deck can throw a baseball 600 feet so make sure all debris, kids toys, rocks, and garbage are picked up before you mow. Any suggestions? Dont use one from the local hardware store. Have you heard of the transmission concerns? Loncin and the manufacture that makes MTDs Powermore engine are exceptions. Hi Paul, great website! Check it out here: Thank you for your prompt response. Our Exmark X-Series 60-inch is powered by the Kawasaki FX730V, which is a 726cc V-twin engine. About half the lot is sloped from 11 13.7 degrees (measured with angle finder phone app calibrated with a level). With occasionally pulling a small cart of wood/ mulch, should I go with the 2800 transaxle over the 2200 transaxle? I like the Ariens IKON X 42, the Troy Bilt Mustang Z42 670 cc V-TWIN as it seems like it has been built to last and supposedly has a smooth ride. My comparison: (all have 60"-61" decks) Exmark Pioneer S Series $6,999. Our current home is a new construction home with approximately 1 acre of flat yard with about 6-8 mature trees in our yard to cut around. Hi JD, I have no problems with any of the engines. 2. If you're working on delicate property, these mowers may not suit your needs. Since the Ariens Apex won the round out of the timecutter and ultima how does it stack up against the mz61. If you want the mower and need armrests here are the right ones: Cub Cadet Arm Rests. 6. Pay, particular attention to the uncrating and setting up section of the manual. Do you think one would last longer than the other, or be more durable, or function better, or offer better traction? That mower should be in the $2700 range and the fact you have to spend an EXTRA $160 for a hitch is ridiculous. Fab 22.5 HP V-Twin Gas Zero-Turn Riding Mower with Smart Speed, Toro TimeCutter HD 48 in. (Im in Arkansas, and I think the closest place for Toro service is 50 miles away.) Your review the other day was spot on. Yes they are expensive, but then I dont have the maintenance and cost to run. Unless your grass is wet from rain they will work well for you. 1. A zero-turn is the same way, Too much weight on the rear hitch will cause the front end to be light and even lift off the ground going up a hill. However, I can live without mulching. Its not on my Top 5 list but it probably should be. Thank you so much for the insight. Good to know that their ZTRs dont have the issue. Z700 SERIES. The Kubota Z700 series (Z723KH-48 / Z724KH-54 / Z725KH-60 / Z724XKW-48 / Z724XKW-54 / Z726XKW-60) mowers have a top speed of 11.2 MPH for maximum productivity when you need to get the job done fast. Ive always liked John Deere, but I am concerned that their decks accumulate too much grass clippings and get clogged. So now I am wanting to look for a machine that is between 42-60 inches, floating deck, deck lifts up for easy blade replacement/clean and performs well for lawn cutting/orchard. Many repair shops carry a cheaper belt, although the same size, that is not designed for use on heat-generating engines. 2. Thank you for your input! Dont be surprised if your neighbors take videos just to show their friends how fast you are mowing . Please wish me and my wallet luck! The Gravely ZT HD is the same mower as the Apex. Im leaning towards the MyRides at this point. I have seen some concern about the non-serviceable transmission on this model. Learn more in our Kubota vs. Bad Boy zero-turn mower comparison. I cant really understand why Bad Boy wants to charge you $600 more for the Kawaski FR 630. Loncin is one of the worlds largest engine manufactures and their quality is legendary. In other words, it will last you years. option as I could buy two of those for the price of the Walker or Clipper, Decisions, decisions.. Hi Wilson, Yes, Bradley is a hard sell to many people because he has never set up a larger dealer network. I am now in the need for something more robust as the big dog has had a tough time on my farm. By the way, the MX5050 compares to the Gravely ZT X. Other than engine choices there is no difference between the 2018 model or the 2020 versions (including the 2020 Apex) I have no problems recommending the Gravely especially if you can save a few bucks buying last years model. Other than this one hill the yard is primarily flat. 24 hp jaw. The powered bagger uses a blower to suck the leaves out of the deck and blow them into the bags. Hi Mike, If you want shaft drive you have to buy a Grasshopper or Kubota front deck mower. If you are used to a mid-mount ZTR and then use the Walker for an hour youll never go back to the mid-mount. I prefer the joystick steering but they do have the lap-bar option if you want. Bad Boy ZT Elite is an expensive ZTR mower from Bad Boy. The layout of the yard leaves me with multiple pie-wedge corners when I mow around the outside of each section. Centipede grass needs to be cut at 1 1/2 inches, requires more power to cut and can quickly wear out cheap residential mower blades. Hes also fairly rough on equipment, (He killed an Exmark Lazer Z in 10 years) so the Ariens Apex/Gravely can put up with his abuse. The Toro, Kohler 7000 and Briggs ELS are just as good. Paul, They are rated for over 500 hours which for most people equals 2 hours a week for over 10 years. I want a very good mulching zero-turn, preferably fabricated deck in the 42 to 46 range to fit through my storage doors. Hi Paul, They compare favorably to the high-end Kohler Command and Briggs Vanguard. With Toro putting the MX5000 on sale right now it does make it the better deal. Decent engine, decent transmissions and built well. Would it be worth the extra money to go with the scag?Ive got a dealer 10 minutes from the house as opposed to a hour and a half for toro dealer. Ill have to take a look at the land again and make a decision. You seem very knowledgeable in the area and I would appreciate your opinion. Thank you for your time! Homeowners like their Spartan mowers a lot. Hi Trent, The Commercial Series is an economical engine designed to have more 50% life than the Intek residential models. Thanks for the response. The offset deck sticks out more on the left of the mower making it very easy to trim around stuff. Ive got about two acres of mostly flat lawn at my house. Engine with 25 HP price starts from $6,299 to $6,499. Thanks, Guys wear them out by trying to mow on hills greater than 15 degrees, pull carts full of dirt and gravel, mow side hills or ditches over 15 degrees and dont keep the outside free of grass and debris (overheating). That Craftsman Pro is made by MTD. Its not the FX (commercial version) that everyone feels is the best engine on the market. The mower has a 10cc hydraulic pump and an incorporated motor unit. I wanted to begin my research. You'll glide on air with the MyRIDE Suspension System, and enjoy pro-level confidence with a commercial drop pin, canister style air filter, a rubber chute, and massive rear drive tires with aggressive tread for maximum traction. Great Brand recognition = quality. Its very easy to work on and has an accessory front step and handrail so its very easy to get on and off of. p.s. Unfortunately, he dropped me as a customer after the second year, saying that the hillside was tearing up the transmission on his (relatively old) mower. Exmark, Hustler, John Deere and Toro all make standon ZTRs. The 3100 trannys are nice but the mower is Kubotas entry model. ft. Tow-Behind Lawn Sweeper. The Cub Cadet ZT1 42 inch or 50 inch also cut well and the fabricated deck on the 50 inch is very rugged. Tractor dealership not too far away has the 48in version at $6k and the 54in one at $6.4k.
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