"Due to advances in forensic technology we have been able to look again at evidence from the murder in 1946 and I am now able to rule him out completely as a suspect in this case. I informed D.C.I. Muriel Drinkwater was a young Welsh schoolgirl. Forensic scientist Dr Colin Dark said that the stain had been found on the lower flap of Muriel's coat. ~ Christine. "If information comes in from the public or other forces we act on it.". Her mother was in the kitchen and . I could never hurt anyone or anything, but in a small, close-knit community, people talk and I knew that in the eyes of some people I was the murderer. The True Crime Files "We realise whoever did this might be dead, but if he is alive and in his 80s or even 90s we would like to see him behind bars," said Muriel's great-niece Claire Phillips, speaking about developments last October. That DNA was initially used to rule from suspicion someone who had been spotted close to the woods on the afternoon Muriel was attacked. Sadly though, this has proved not to be. Forensic historian Nell Darby found similarities in the case of Muriel Drinkwater and the later Ronnie Harries farmhouse murders in old newspaper articles from the time. Muriel was murdered 16 years before I was born, but it was a story I had heard from a young age. We got a partial profile, given that it was the oldest cold case with a semen stain on it that we had been working on.". The 73-year-old stain was discovered during a cold case review in 2003 and is thought to be one of the oldest pieces of evidence in the world. I can be contacted at [emailprotected] or via Facebook messenger. 4th daughter born to Lilian and Charles Herbert Irvine in Liverpool. A much loved, very kind and thoughtful person who did great things for people but never expected anything in return. Two other specific persons of interest have been put forward. Drinkwater, a 12-year-old schoolgirl, was raped and shot in the woods in Penllergaer, Swansea. A brother, nephew, grandson. I have requested information regarding the cost of the re-investigation of Muriels murder since 2008. South Wales Police's Specialist Crime Review Unit has today finally ruled out Jones - who died from cancer in 1971 - from their investigation. 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Just a few weeks short of her 13th birthday, Muriel had been beaten on the crown of her head with an object, raped and then shot twice in the . Advertisement. Her route to her family's home Tyle-Du Farm entailed a mile-long journey that wove in and out of the woods. Joseph James DeAngelo, the suspected Golden State Killer, The real waking the dead: This schoolgirls savage murder has mystified police for 62 years. Police are closer than ever to finding her killer, "Secrecy over 1940 murder as DNA offers new leads", "The unsolved murder of a 12-year-old brutally abused and killed", "Serial Slaying of Pretty Women Has New Scotland Yard Confused", "Detectives link Muriel Drinkwater and Sheila Martin murders", "The chilling tale of a man who bludgeoned his relatives to death with a hammer and paid the ultimate price", "The unsolved murder of 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater and the new suspect identified", "Muriel Drinkwater murder file is declared secret at request of police", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Murder_of_Muriel_Drinkwater&oldid=1138738141, This page was last edited on 11 February 2023, at 09:11. Just a few thoughts, so we can deduce its a man, not too young to be weaker than Muriel, not to old because they would be frail, so we are saying middle aged man in 1946. A US Army Colt .45 service revolver was used to shoot Muriel Drinkwater, 12, in the chest, after her killer had beaten and raped her. Police believed 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater (left) might have been a victim of a notorious serial killer Harold Jones when she was raped and murdered in 1946. Accountant Graham Wildin built an incredible 10,000sq/ft leisure complex - which has a bowling alley, casino, a cinema and more - at the back of his home. Muriel was skipping through the woods on the afternoon of June 27, 1946, as she did every day on her way from school, when the summer's afternoon turned to tragedy. However, if it wasnt for Victor Penaluna and D.C. Paul Rogers of the London Metropolitan Police I would have been none the wiser about the Muriel Drinkwater murder. profiling cleared Hubert who stated he had long been suspected by some locals of being the murderer and was happy to clear his name.). [9] Detectives from Scotland Yard came to Swansea to assist in the investigation. During the course of the investigation the finger of blame had sometimes been pointed at Muriel's father, John. Jones and his wife Muriel hid a lot of secrets from their daughter and one of these secrets may have been Jones wasnt her father. Twelve-year-old Muriel Drinkwater was singing as she walked along the mile-long path to her home after getting off a school bus. Two months too young to face the gallows, he was sent to Usk Prison where he sensationally confessed to the first killing, blaming the voice of a 'demon' in his head. If you have any information about Muriels murder, please contact the South Wales Policevia email at[emailprotected], Mystery of 1946 murder in woods BBC News article, The real waking the dead: This schoolgirls savage murder has mystified police for 62 years. Another wait and see. A team of crime experts have re-investigated the brutal killing 74 years ago and uncovered what they believe to be firm new leads in the search for who killed her, Get the latest court and crime news from WalesOnline. Fingers crossed that one day a DNA match can give us the breakthrough needed to solve this case. I really appreciate how youre helping keep the true crime community informed on whats going on behind the scenes in this frustrating and heartbreaking case. Mudgee General Cemetery. Click here to hear the Audio File of this case. Play it now! If you have any new information I would be extremely interested to hear it! Brutally beaten, raped and shot twice, the discovery of Swansea schoolgirlMuriel Drinkwater's body in 1946 horrified an entire community. However, in 2008, a team of retired detectives investigating cold cases found Drinkwater's clothes in storage. Hi Neil. Click hereto hear the Audio File of this case. Jones was ruled out at the beginning of May, 2019. Victor told me that he had seen a T.V. Edith Patten had been buried in the old town cemetery and was left behind when officials relocated the graves in the 1930s. "It does make you think that Muriel Drinkwater (who passed her 11-Plus to get into grammar school) is the sort of girl he would have been interested in. The murder of Muriel Drinkwater is an unsolved 1946 child murder case from Wales. Well here is the TRUTH. Video, 00:01:00One-minute World News, WATCH: Key moments from PM's NI Brexit deal speech. It became known as the Little Red Riding Hood murder - but who killed Muriel Drinkwater? Why on earth would the police continue to stonewall after all these decades? Talk about a case hitting close to home for you! He can't understand why people would think he killed them. Who killed 'Little Red Riding Hood'? to have gone on to kill six women in London in the 1960s - and was dubbed Jack The Stripper. Her name was written in copper plate, Muriel J Drinkwater, and they were examined by the forensic expert who did some incredible work for us, and was able to find this full crime stain on the back of Muriel's little school mac. Heres hoping one day soon Muriel gets some semblance of justice. Her mother Margaret watched from the house as the youngest of. MLS breaks attendance records on the opening weekend of the new season as both Charlotte and Atlanta welcome over 67,000 fans - more than the average crowd at 13 NFL teams! Take a second to support Christine on Patreon! Medicaid to cut 14 MILLION Americans from health coverage as states crack down on eligibility for the first time in three years after numbers soared during COVID - so are you at risk? Welsh author Neil Milkinsargues that Harold Jones,a convicted murderer who killed two girls in Abertillery in 1921 when he was just 15 years old, was Muriels killer. In August, the police appealed to the U.S. public for assistance, as many Americans had been stationed in Penllergaer during the recent Second World War and there was a possibility one of the servicemen had sold the weapon. "[4] Police also circulated photos of the United States Army-issued gun; notably, perspex had been used to modernise the original wooden stocks next to the grip. Lets deduce, her killer was obviously male, or were they, unless they had extracted the sperm from another person it is definite that they are a male, so we have a male, s/ that narrows it down. On this occasion he was rude to me claiming that he knew nothing about any information sent to South Wales Police from D.C. Paul Rogers. But in 2003, when the case was reopened for review, forensics experts had a major breakthrough when they found a semen stain on Muriel's coat. Something went wrong, please try again later. The murder of Muriel Drinkwater (Welsh: Llofruddiaeth Muriel Drinkwater),[2] also known as the Little Red Riding Hood murder, is an unsolved 1946 child murder case from Wales. The team tracked down Harries' cousin Lynn Hughes who described how the only child had been "spoilt" by his parents and was very "childish". Great questions! In 1946, 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater was murdered in the woods of Swansea, Wales. Muriel Drinkwater Muriel Drinkwater (born 1906) Jump to: Bio graphy Family Photos Comments Obit uary. The police think that Hoyles, who as mentioned above passed Muriel on her way home, encountered Muriels killer weeks before her death. Video, 00:01:00At the crash site of 'no hope' - BBC reporter in Greece, Dog found alive after 23 days under rubble. The BBC is not responsible for the content of external sites. First he lived in Fulham with a former London Metropolitan Police officer John Widdows and his daughter Muriel whom he married in 1948. "Given the sheer level of violence that he inflicted on his own relatives, I can't quite believe that this would be the first instance of his violence.". https://www.abc10.com/amp/article/news/crime/prison-inmate-accused-42-year-old-homicide-in-dixon-area/103-535ec3ad-2aa1-4d10-94a7-aafe4f6081ff, We are thrilled to announce that remains discovered in 2017 in Sanford, Maine at a building site have been identified. He said, ``She was regularly seen walking, skipping and singing in the woods as she made her way each day from her home to the . Although an extensive investigation was conducted that involved the police visiting every farmhouse and cottage within 150 square miles and interviewing 20,000 men in Swansea, Aberdare and Carmarthenshire, the case that has become known as theLittle Red Riding Hood Murder remains unsolved. from Ron Harries and his cousin and from Muriels coat and yet are not releasing the results of the tests. Only the exhumation of Jones body or D.N.A. It is one of the oldest active cold cases in the United Kingdom. She was singing on the school bus with her friends, on the afternoon of June 27, 1946, when she was dropped on the side of the road near her family's farm on the outskirt of Swansea. Wife of James Anthony Drinkwater and mother to Carole Suzanne, Stephen Mark, Simon Anthony and Russell John Drinkwater. Yet, despite their exhaustive enquiries - not to mention the discovery of the gun used in Muriel's shooting - the culprit managed to evade justice. GRAPHIC DESCRIPTIONS. And shockingly the reply was that the information I requested was in written format and would take at least 16 hours at a cost of more than 450 to supply and my request was denied. [8][4] Policemen from Glamorgan, assisted by the 169th Bomb Disposal Unit, used a metal detector to search for a second weapon suspected to have been used, but never located it. Twelve-year-old Muriel Drinkwater was a choirgirl who dreamed of being a schoolteacher. Dubbed the 'Little Red Riding Hood murder', the 12-year-old had been killed amongst the undergrowth at Penllergaer Woods whilst on her way home from school one June afternoon. I personally think whoever did it was a true psychopath and he would probably of done something like it before and has done other crimes since. I am making a F.O.I. However in 1965 he was registered as Harry Stevens in Putney AND at the same time he rented a property in Aldensley Road Hammersmith and was also registered but using the name Harry Jones. It is frustrating that the Wales Online story of Saturday 7 November states the police have D.N.A. [5], Muriel Joan Drinkwater was the youngest of four daughters born to John Percival and Margaret (ne Morgans) Drinkwater. Muriel Drinkwater lived on a farm known at Tyle-Du at Penllergaer and attended Penllergaer Grammar School. [11] Hoyles, who saw Drinkwater after buying eggs at her parents' farm, was cleared by the DNA evidence. Regards. Close. Muriel was seen at 2:30PM, singing as she exited the school bus. Now cutting-edge forensics to rival any TV thriller have identified her killers DNA, Unsolved: The Little Red Riding Hood murder, Muriel Drinkwater murder file is declared secret at request of police, The Disappearance of Audrey Moran and Jonathan Reynoso. The D.N.A. Drinkwater, a 12-year-old schoolgirl, was raped and shot in the woods in Penllergaer, Swansea. In 2008, a DNA profile of the suspect . Your email address will not be published. As part of the investigation forensic evidence has been re-examined and officers have considered theories that convicted murderer Harold Jones was . Their bodies were found buried in a Carmarthenshire kale field in 1953 you can read the full story here. We also may change the frequency you receive our emails from us in order to keep you up to date and give you the best relevant information possible. This post deals with sexual assault and might be triggering for some readers. He is very clearly interested in the fact that she is young, that she is a schoolgirl, and also that she is very clever. The case, which became known as the Little Red Riding Hood murder, is one of the oldest active cold cases in the United Kingdom. Brutally beaten, raped and shot twice, the discovery of Swansea schoolgirl Muriel Drinkwater 's body in 1946 horrified an entire community. Regards. Some time after speaking to D.S Lloyd-Evans, D.N.A. It is one of the oldest active cold cases in the United Kingdom. In 2007 whilst researching for my 2008 True Crime book Every Mothers Nightmare Abertillery in Mourning, which dealt with the murders of two Abertillery school-girls in 1921, I received a surprise visit from Victor Penaluna, a cousin of the second Abertillery victim Florence Little aged 11. Just put my name in Facebook bar. The hardest part then was actually finding the materials," he told the documentary. Due to advances in forensic technology, we have been able to look again at evidence from the murder in 1946 and I am now able to rule out Harold Jones completely as a suspect in this case.. It was believed a similar weapon had been used in the murder of a cinema manager in Bristol. He agreed to give a DNA sample that could rule out Muriel's father from the investigation. This was no spur of the moment event. found on Muriels coat and D.N.A. She was singing . If the perpetrator was lying in wait as I believe he was, why select that certain spot? The electoral register having been suspended because of the war means details are hazy about where he ended up - although he did eventually resurface in South London under the name Harry Stevens, leading some to believe he was also Jack The Stripper - the serial killer who battered and strangled a number of women across the capital during the 1960s. Are you able to tell me if her father has been cleared via DNA profiling?. On July 7, 1946, eleven-year-old Sheila Martin was raped and strangled in woods near her home in Dartford. This seems like a dubious connection because there is roughly 230 miles (370 kilometres) between Dartford and Penllergaer,but on the day of Sheilas murder a large race meeting was held at Brands Hatch with over 9,000 attendees, one of whom could have been both Muriel and Shielas killer. Or was she just in the wrong place at the wrong time? Thomas was born on July 22 1880, in South Thomaston Knox Maine. It was also tested against the DNA of one Harold Jones, a convicted double child murderer who slayed two similarly young girls in Abertillery in the 1920s, to see if he might be the perpetrator. Dear Sir/Madam. Those who have not failed may not have succeeded. Muriel Drinkwater was born on January 12, 1906 in New York . Oftentimes the public wonders why resources should be allocated to cold cases such as Muriels, cases in which most of victims immediate family, and even the perpetrator, are likely dead. Yet, despite their exhaustive enquiries - not to mention the discovery of the gun used in Muriel's shooting - the culprit managed to evade justice. Thank you once again and I wish you every success with your forthcoming publication. [8][4], In 2003, detectives re-opened the case in the hope of finding DNA evidence on the gun, but were not successful as too many people had handled the weapon. If you can contact [emailprotected] Id really appreciate it. I would like to request an internal review of (an adverse) decision made by South Wales Police regarding information I requested on 28-6-21. They never recovered. Elizabeth Muriel Greenshields Drinkwater . But he was later released and served in World War II before his military career ended in 1946. If true, it could have placed him in the area at the time of Muriel's murder. We also may change the frequency you receive our emails from us in order to keep you up to date and give you the best relevant information possible. Hoyles told police that the man looked terribly stern and had a local accent. Although this person of interest could have just been out for hike or involved in some other unrelated nefarious activity, the authorities believe that he may have been in involved in Muriels murder. Investigators now allege theyve identified her murderer. The new B.B.C. Thanks again ~ Christine, Your email address will not be published. . Neil. Or by navigating to the user icon in the top right. You are talking about 74 years ago now and nothing has been able to close the matter.". [7], The next day, Drinkwater's body was found in the woods by a police inspector. Update: I have left it two weeks for the . Paul says: "Muriel had almost made it to the home. The police have a Y-STR profile from Muriels coat. She had been raped, bludgeoned about the head and shot twice in the chest. It is now more than 70 years since the 12-year-old schoolgirl was brutally raped, battered around the head and shot twice while walking home. taken from Jones one and only child, a daughter. On this podcast episode, we cover the unsolved cold case of Muriel Drinkwater. I really appreciate your local insights. Thanks again and take care. In the programme, former Dyfed Powys chief constable Jackie Roberts travelled to met him and he told her how his grandparents (Muriel's parents) had changed after the murder. He stated that I was barking up the wrong tree regarding Harold Jones having killed Muriel and finished by saying Happy Hunting before slamming the phone down on me. Holly Ann Campiglia was a Jane Doe until she was identified in 1992. Adding: Please may I make a comment that the information that I request would be available via computer in an instant. Detectives to revisit unsolved murder. Thank you Christine. But Muriel, who was known locally as 'The Little Nightingale' because of her beautiful singing voice, never made it home. "The results of the forensic examination categorically confirm that Harold Jones was not responsible for the murder of Muriel Drinkwater," says DCI Mark Lewis, head of the unit. "South Wales Police has had considerable success with cold case reviews being one of the first forces in the country to set up a review team in 1999 to conduct cold case reviews. Its amazing the documentary could screw things up so much. Do not sell or share my personal information. Her killer has never been caught and it remains among the most notorious unsolved murders in Welsh history you can read more of them here. A different D.C.I. DNA was taken from the relatives of both Muriel and Ronnie Harries but the results have not been made public. Read about our approach to external linking. Published: 08:03 EST, 1 May 2019 | Updated: 13:00 EST, 1 May 2019. On the afternoon of Muriels murder, thirteen-year-old Hoyles purchased eggs from Muriels mother at their family farm. 2023 The True Crime Files. Video, 00:01:00View from the cockpit of a Ukraine combat helicopter. "All historic murder cases, or 'cold cases', are allocated to the Specialist Crime Review Unit and remain under active consideration and will be subject of re-investigation as and when new information is received or when there are advances in forensic science. Video, 00:02:56, Tears of relief after man found in Amazon jungle. true crime. VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED. For decades, a key person of interest in Muriels murder has been Hubert Hoyles. Thank you for listening to this episode of The True Crime Files. Hi Nicola. Something went wrong, please try again later. Updated: August 30, 2013 . Regards. Follow. [15] There is evidence that Harries was employed by Drinkwater's father, John, at the time of her death. An autopsy later determined that Muriel had been bludgeoned, raped, and shot twice in the chest. The unanswered question, however, is whether or not the killer was specifically waiting for Muriel or if any girl or woman who happened by would have made a suitable target. Filmed as part of documentary Dark Land: Hunting the Killers, that is being shown on BBC Wales, the name of murderer Ronnie Harries, the last man to have been hanged in Carmarthen, has been put forward by the team that is headed by the former chief constable of Dyfed Powys Police Jackie Roberts. She was pulled from that path into the woodland beside it, attacked and murdered amongst the undergrowth of Penllergaer Woods, near Swansea, just yards from safety. "I was about nine at the time and he was about twice my age, but I felt, at nine, that I was his intellectual superior," he said. 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